Questions commonly arise about the potential for AI to replace testing done by humans, but most working software testers recommend that humans are involved in the process. Historically, humans have always improved testing by building tools to aid their own work.

How To Test This?

interview episodes where Mamadou N’diaye talks with with software testing experts

• https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/spidey1944
• https://www.youtube.com/@HowToTestThis
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/mamadou-ndiaye-consultant/

Episode Details

• Show Notes: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/spidey1944/episodes/How-to-Test-Seriously---James-Bach-e3bnfmf
• Published: 2025-12-01T15:02:55Z
• Duration: 01:07:09
• Author: Mamadou N’diaye

Overview

The podcast explores the evolving field of software testing, portraying it as a critical thinking and social challenge rather than a purely technical task. It discusses how testing involves understanding complex systems, recognizing cognitive biases, and moving beyond rigid structures like traditional test cases. The episode highlights the limitations of commonly used tools and certifications, such as JIRA and ISTQB, while emphasizing a more thoughtful and context-driven approach to testing.

James Back, a testing expert, shares his transition from video game programming to testing leadership, influenced by figures like Jerry Weinberg and Kim Kainer. He critiques early testing literature for oversimplifying the process and advocates for practical, reflective testing practices. The discussion also introduces Rapid Software Testing (RST) methodology, which focuses on the testers role and critical thinking, along with the potential of AI and automation to support more efficient testing. The podcast ultimately stresses the importance of continuous learning, adaptability, and the value of test portfolios in modern testing practices.